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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://sarahaskew.net/2009/02/03/super-earth-confirmed-first-of-many/comment-page-1/#comment-262</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 13:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vague - ah thanks, nice to hear. And nitpicking is good, diameter and mass of a planet are not exactly interchangeable quantities! I found out about the exoplanet discovery at a meeting 2 weeks ago too when a scientist said exactly the same thing about this discovery.... I think it&#039;s best if those things don&#039;t get streamed live personally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vague &#8211; ah thanks, nice to hear. And nitpicking is good, diameter and mass of a planet are not exactly interchangeable quantities! I found out about the exoplanet discovery at a meeting 2 weeks ago too when a scientist said exactly the same thing about this discovery&#8230;. I think it&#8217;s best if those things don&#8217;t get streamed live personally.</p>
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		<title>By: Vagueofgodalming</title>
		<link>http://sarahaskew.net/2009/02/03/super-earth-confirmed-first-of-many/comment-page-1/#comment-261</link>
		<dc:creator>Vagueofgodalming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 12:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah, thanks for taking the time to post this.

Sorry to come over all nitpicky in my first comment there - I was a bit annoyed with the ESA press people because I thought the way the release was worded (&#039;size&#039;) was designed to encourage misunderstandings over mass and diameter, and to make it hard to do comparisons with other well-known small exoplanets.

Interestingly, the DPS 08 conference was streamed as live video on the internet, and then turned into downloadable movies.  When what was streamed was things like Michael Mumma saying &quot;Don&#039;t tell anyone yet, but we&#039;ve mapped methane on Mars&quot;, it gets kind of interesting (I only found that after the public announcement myself).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah, thanks for taking the time to post this.</p>
<p>Sorry to come over all nitpicky in my first comment there &#8211; I was a bit annoyed with the ESA press people because I thought the way the release was worded (&#8216;size&#8217;) was designed to encourage misunderstandings over mass and diameter, and to make it hard to do comparisons with other well-known small exoplanets.</p>
<p>Interestingly, the DPS 08 conference was streamed as live video on the internet, and then turned into downloadable movies.  When what was streamed was things like Michael Mumma saying &#8220;Don&#8217;t tell anyone yet, but we&#8217;ve mapped methane on Mars&#8221;, it gets kind of interesting (I only found that after the public announcement myself).</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://sarahaskew.net/2009/02/03/super-earth-confirmed-first-of-many/comment-page-1/#comment-260</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 10:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pierre - if the radius is 1.7 times that of the Earth then so is the diameter. In any case, the Paris-Meudon press release says: &quot;This new object, named CoRoT-Exo-7b, is very different: its diameter is only 1.8 that of the Earth. &quot; [NB - I heard it was 1.75 so should be ok to state both 1.7 and 1.8]. Or did I misunderstand your comment?

JT - yes on the one hand it would be great to get &quot;live updates&quot; from a conference like that, and some meetings like the UK National Astronomy Meeting last year had a pretty lively blog (http://orbitingfrog.com/nam/). But scientists present a lot of early results at such meetings, that are perhaps unconfirmed and often unpublished. Widely publicising these on the internet is just not a good idea. It&#039;s important that these symposia remain places where scientists can exchange results and information with scrutiny only from their peers, not the interweb-at-large, politicians etc.

This exoplanet discovery hasn&#039;t been published in a peer-reviewed journal yet, in fact no paper has even been submitted. So I thought carefully first about whether I even wanted to say something about it. In the end the large amount of ground-based data that has been collected by the team convinced me that they have gathered enough data to support their findings, and that the result will stand. But it would have been much nicer to read a paper than a bunch of press releases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pierre &#8211; if the radius is 1.7 times that of the Earth then so is the diameter. In any case, the Paris-Meudon press release says: &#8220;This new object, named CoRoT-Exo-7b, is very different: its diameter is only 1.8 that of the Earth. &#8221; [NB - I heard it was 1.75 so should be ok to state both 1.7 and 1.8]. Or did I misunderstand your comment?</p>
<p>JT &#8211; yes on the one hand it would be great to get &#8220;live updates&#8221; from a conference like that, and some meetings like the UK National Astronomy Meeting last year had a pretty lively blog (<a href="http://orbitingfrog.com/nam/" rel="nofollow">http://orbitingfrog.com/nam/</a>). But scientists present a lot of early results at such meetings, that are perhaps unconfirmed and often unpublished. Widely publicising these on the internet is just not a good idea. It&#8217;s important that these symposia remain places where scientists can exchange results and information with scrutiny only from their peers, not the interweb-at-large, politicians etc.</p>
<p>This exoplanet discovery hasn&#8217;t been published in a peer-reviewed journal yet, in fact no paper has even been submitted. So I thought carefully first about whether I even wanted to say something about it. In the end the large amount of ground-based data that has been collected by the team convinced me that they have gathered enough data to support their findings, and that the result will stand. But it would have been much nicer to read a paper than a bunch of press releases.</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre BARGE</title>
		<link>http://sarahaskew.net/2009/02/03/super-earth-confirmed-first-of-many/comment-page-1/#comment-259</link>
		<dc:creator>Pierre BARGE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 05:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please note that what is equal to 1.7 Earth radius is the radius of this planet and not its diameter!

Thanks to check on the official press release, for example at:
http://www.obspm.fr/actual/nouvelle/feb09/exo7.en.shtml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please note that what is equal to 1.7 Earth radius is the radius of this planet and not its diameter!</p>
<p>Thanks to check on the official press release, for example at:<br />
<a href="http://www.obspm.fr/actual/nouvelle/feb09/exo7.en.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.obspm.fr/actual/nouvelle/feb09/exo7.en.shtml</a></p>
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		<title>By: JT</title>
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		<dc:creator>JT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 01:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe there are no bloggers at the COROT science symposium giving a daily recap!  300+ exo-solar planets and counting, yet this is still exciting because each one is somehow always different from all that came before!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe there are no bloggers at the COROT science symposium giving a daily recap!  300+ exo-solar planets and counting, yet this is still exciting because each one is somehow always different from all that came before!</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 08:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments and corrections all. I&#039;ll check everything and update asap!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments and corrections all. I&#8217;ll check everything and update asap!</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre BARGE</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pierre BARGE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 04:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The science team of CoRoT is not led by a German!

Please check your information.  This is possibly a first sign of the Exoplanet fatigue but possibly also of a more standard illness.

Anyway, I think that the fatigue will increase  when Kepler will be launched with a lot of exoplanet discoveries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The science team of CoRoT is not led by a German!</p>
<p>Please check your information.  This is possibly a first sign of the Exoplanet fatigue but possibly also of a more standard illness.</p>
<p>Anyway, I think that the fatigue will increase  when Kepler will be launched with a lot of exoplanet discoveries.</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre BARGE</title>
		<link>http://sarahaskew.net/2009/02/03/super-earth-confirmed-first-of-many/comment-page-1/#comment-255</link>
		<dc:creator>Pierre BARGE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 19:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Vagueofgodalming</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vagueofgodalming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s exciting, but I think it&#039;s the diameter that&#039;s about 1.7 times Earth&#039;s.  The mass seems to be from 5 to 11 times Earth&#039;s.  Gliese 581c (for which we admittedly only have a minimum mass) is probably lighter.

http://exoplanet.eu/planet.php?p1=CoRoT-Exo-7&amp;p2=b .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s exciting, but I think it&#8217;s the diameter that&#8217;s about 1.7 times Earth&#8217;s.  The mass seems to be from 5 to 11 times Earth&#8217;s.  Gliese 581c (for which we admittedly only have a minimum mass) is probably lighter.</p>
<p><a href="http://exoplanet.eu/planet.php?p1=CoRoT-Exo-7&amp;p2=b" rel="nofollow">http://exoplanet.eu/planet.php?p1=CoRoT-Exo-7&amp;p2=b</a> .</p>
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